Saturday, June 11, 2011

What I think and Why Through My Research about Clif High and the Webbot Technology Being Used To Try To Manifest Negative Events - How I came to the Conclusion!

UPDATE ON 6/11/11 AT BOTTOM OF POST - Due to the recent admission by Clif, he made things up in the alta reports, I am putting this post up at the top once more. (I originally posted this article on the blog in November of 2010)


What I think and Why about Clif High and the Webbot Technology and How I came to the Conclusion through days and weeks of Research.  This is from someone who was a Huge Follower of Clif High and the webbot, not from someone who had been a critic.

Why have I waited until now, though July is when I feel, I figured out that the webbot predictions were a nefarious project?  I did not have a “smoking gun” to come out with what I felt, but with the facts of Clif posting on GLP some very vile and violent postings, to me that is now the “smoking gun” needed.    Also, since I had put so much energy into believing in Clif and the webbot, I do not write this with glee at all, it is written in sadness, but I still feel this information needs to get out, so people can make up their own minds, regarding it all.

I will say, some really great things have come of all of this, in my own growing and understanding of the negative to the positive.  There are others who have been on this journey with me, who I connected with much more after the discovery of what I feel the alta reports are actually about.  A few of us share the most wonderful information in positive understanding of Who We Are!  

I would also like to clarify right now.  I am thankful to have taken all the steps I have in this process.   Due to my believing of the webbot reports and then finding out, in my opinion what I believe they are actually being used for…. It made me grow leaps and bounds in a very short amount of time.  Those leaps and bounds were to the positive of Who We are and I discovered some amazing things about myself and the world.  So I am actually grateful for being engrossed in the negative, to be able to see the Light so Brightly and Positively and Live in the Light of Positive Intentions for myself and all others!

So here is how it all began, that I questioned Clif High and the Webbot Reports.


***** NOTE**** Everything in this post/article, is search-able on the Internet about Clif High, I am not posting any personal information about him, other than that which PUBLIC on various websites Linked***exception is his email to me personally, which he had said previously in another email, I could make any email of his to me, public as I desired*****

I used to be a Webbot follower and believed in Clif High and his sincerity of his work.  In July of this year, Clif released pictures on his website of his umiak boat, he built.  http://www.halfpasthuman.com/umiakpictures.html  besides these pictures, he also released pictures of himself, which are no longer on his site.

The pictures disturbed me for some reason, it seemed to me, there was a lot more in the pictures than them just being pictures.  They were all contrived.  They were meant to look like one picture being taken after another, but the sails were different and the wood was different in each one. That feeling and thought stayed with me.  I emailed Clif (which I had done many times before and he would email me back. in one of the emails to me, he told me to make public the emails as I wished.  So I will be making public this email (which has not been made public previously) of which I feel is a confession from him, in what the reports are about).  I emailed him, that something did not seem right about the pictures and him releasing them as he did. 

When he emailed me back, I was shocked by what I felt was a confession of what the webbot reports are actually about.  First, trying to get the predictions manifested by those who are awake and aware and their energy being focused on the reports and that there may be messages in the reports.   

his email to me – July 18th 2010

Sherrie
any agents of TPTB have always known where to locate me, it was /is the random mentally ill
fellows wrapped up in religion and such that has always been the issue. BUT time is too short
now, and universe moves us as it requires, not as we want. So reluctantly, i have to agree
with what direction universe shoves me. It is saying time is short, and certain 'talents' i have
been provided are to be used  at this upcoming juncture. In order for certain circumstances to
manifest 'cleanly', there has to be precursors manifestations placed out-and-about as
necessary building blocks
.
Soo.. even though i am a very private person, with a pretty much
internally focused vision, i am being instucted by universe that the harmonics i may bring to
manifesting circumstances are to be required
and to get off'n my butt and get to the real
work. Thus i must now reluctantly take a path i would have preferred to leave to another
incarnation. Make sense? Sort of?

It must be so.


WIthin the upcoming juncture of manifesting events, universe will be using me to provide
words to people who will in their turn take what they need from those words.
This is also to be
true of personal contact vibrations. Thus i will be in contact with these people as it decides.
But, since i am a participant in these events, i decided...hmmm. let me at least get a boat ride
out of the deal...and some pie if possible. Thus the 'auction' offer.

The noodle looks to be an auction of an interesting type. We will accept the highest bidder's
money, and send it to people in the gulf (no official charities, so no write off....that will
eliminate some individuals of less than focused intent), but also part of the auction will be
'won' by someone who will put out only words, in the form of a concise personal essay. Thus
more a contest, and eliminates money as the conduit. And they will have to agree to be vdo'd
and recorded.

Also, it is my boat. IF'n agents of nefarious intent were to be involved, there is NO place more
secure for me under those circumstances than Q'oqi-oqi. Plus, we are all dead anyway,
merely a matter of how long we must walk to discover how universe will arrange our end. So
no worries there.

Again, make some sense? Must be somewhat cryptic.
clif

Besides the email, I began looking deeper at the pictures.  The picture that is the fourth up from the bottom at the link above, bothered me tremendously, I felt for sure it was actually a message.    The bottom part to me shows a Masonic Compass, but I felt there was more.    The word “Illusion” came to me, so I did a search on what a symbol for “Illusion” would be.  I did not specify a language etc.  just any symbol for “illusion”. 
What came up for the symbol of “Illusion” matched, in my opinion the 4th picture up from the bottom, perfectly.  The symbol was from Kanji.  I remembered Clif in an interview saying he was into Kanji.  The symbol:


Going from there, but not being a Kanji person, I believe I found another picture which is the 10th down on the page, that matches the words “Deceive the people” .  Here is the symbol:

Since I am not a Kanji expert and it is all new to me.  If someone who is more familiar with it, can take a look at the pictures (while they are still up) and see what Kanji symbols you can find in them.  I also believe the sail is used for the triangle, except it is upside down, so look at the pictures and reverse the sail.  You will find it matches very well, in many respects, including the wood pieces outside the boat being moved around for the pictures.

This was shocking to me and for weeks I felt confusion regarding it all.  Because I had believed in Clif and I was finding out, in my opinion he was not who he claimed he was.

I have wondered if Clif had set the boat up as different Kanji symbols and to let everyone know, he was deceiving and thus, if we did not catch what he was telling us, that was our problem, but he had no Karma from it?  So is every picture telling us something and if we miss it, the Karma is not on him.  The very first picture I have not been able to completely grasp the meaning, but I do know, vines do not grow straight up as shown in the picture of the shadows on the sails.  

In his August interview Clif said the awake and aware create more energy than those who are asleep, though the awake and aware are smaller in numbers.  I listened to the interview and knew instinctively that is what was occurring with the reports.  I felt instinctively that the reports were about those who are awake and aware were being used to FOCUS on negative events, so they would happen.  Why would someone do this?  Clif in interviews talks about his meditations and how “enlightened” he is from his meditations, yet his postings on GLP show him as a very angry, hateful person towards various people and groups.
That is interesting to say the least, considering the webbot reports and his email to me about the manifesting of the events from them.

Here is where Clif High outed himself on GLP and by doing so he revealed one of his ID numbers

clif high
User ID: 581357
United States
11/6/2010 11:57 AM
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Re: BREAKING - Clif High Just Released a Statement!!!!! This Is It!!!!! DOOOOOM!!!!! Quote

i never capitalize my name. i am not so important to myself that i give a shit about ego crap. the use of my name this way causes some energy shifts in what feels a malicious manner. at least mean spirited. if i am so lame, i invite you to do better.., oh and what is your favorite appellation? fucktard? isn't it...

worth wondering why you have not the balls to go at me straight on instead of through really lame parody. i can do better in my sleep. if you want to fight, call me up and we can arrange such.

He then admitted he posted on GLP on his site http://www.halfpasthuman.com/ukemiarts.html

From there someone from GLP did a search and found many postings of Clif's on GLP that topic is linked and titled: "Meet baldrishi, You know him as Clif High"
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1259058/pg1

Another topic - Regarding the Outing of Clif on GLP - started by a moderator there
Phen Speaks to Clif High
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1264206/pg1


For those who question if Clif is the one who actually posted on GLP – this post shows he is the one who posted the various vile comments – as he posted this (2nd comment down from GLP), before he came out with his “Pissin off the Pindar” Writing. http://www.halfpasthuman.com/pissin.html

But I have to wonder what happened – because just a little over a month before, Clif was touting Deagle on GLP here is his post from Dec. 2009 compared to the post below it from Jan. 2010.

HERE ARE JUST A FEW OF HIS POSTS ON GLP - LINKS TO ALL TOPICS AND PAGES INCLUDED, There are many many more posts from him there, which you can find yourself, if you so desire.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 581357
United States
12/5/2009 3:21 PM
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deagle is a true fellow according to bill ryan, just like dan burish is a true fellow according to bill ryan, just like all the serpoo is true.

****** I looked up Serpoo – I had never heard of that – it seems that is from the game “Resident Evil 4”.  It looks like a doom and gloom and a violent type of game*****
 

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deagle is a former doctor who lost his license in colorado for killing some woman with too many meds 109 of them. Then he claims to have been the doctor at collumbine, murrow building, 911 and about a dozen other places. And he claims to be a doctor on classified secret programs. But he is living in canada and cant get his medical license back. So works as a radio vitamin salesman and gets his audience through fear and fake doom. Unlike Quayle there is not a sign that the USgovmint is paying him. It looks like all his classified and secret ops claims are just the same bullshit as his claims to have been THE doctor at all these tragedies. A strange doomfiker no doubt, but trusted? by whom? for what level of his bullshit is trustworthy? This fucker claims to have turned down becoming YOUR master. That is right, deagle claims to have been offered the PINDAR of the Dragon status by the Priory of Scion...which would make him the Dragons' Dick that rules the world. But he says he is too nice and could not be your slave master.


baldrishi
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how many times was the pope attacked?

no nearly enough!

save the humans! take a big crap on the vatican!


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more zionist propaganda to make it seem like israelis are not the bad guys in spite of them about to kill a few million innocent iranians by their nuke attack. Fuck the zionist british press stooges and the israelis with their hands up the butts of the establishment (NWO).


baldrishi
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no, you are wrong. Passover is a celebration of the Death of the First Born Children. This 'holiday' is in "celebration" of the reputed half million first born non-jew children that were supposedly slaughtered by the jews' god in egypt. Like most of the old testament derived jewish history, this story of passover is a myth. But at its core, the jewish myth of passover celebrates the death of children. What a very fitting holiday for the israeli's, the butchers of the children in palestine.

Myth because =(no jews were ever builders of pyramids, the jewish people en masse were never held captive by the pharohs, and moses did not lead any single person any place...all BS and myth).



baldrishi
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to paraphrase percy bysshe shelley,

when the last pope has been strangled with the guts of the last politcian, and both bodies consumed by fires fed by the rendered fat of the last banker, then humans will be free.

baldrishi
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so let me see if i get this, we have a dead, minor middle eastern god myth in charge of the stock market? And this dead, minor delusion of a few warped minds gets pissed when we try and rein in the zionist monsters who are intent on fucking all christers into slavery by trickery?

Why do I find the above posts so shocking?  Because Clif has said in interview after interview - he does NOT condone violence and he does NOT feel anyone should be violent!  So his posts are contrary to his words in interviews.  Also I specifically remember an interview he did last year, where he said he does NOT surf the internet, nor does he go to forums as "that would mess up, him reading and interpreting the data for the alta reports".

I find the posts above very significant in that he has out right said things contrary to what he has done.   

There are other topics he started, that were about promoting the webbot reports and his swirlie program, which seems real scary to me, due to comments by others saying it made them “feel weird” after watching them.  Clif claimed it would help people physically, by watching them. 
You can check out those topics here:

a comment from a crop circle topic, someone else started:

This person was warning others, not to watch the crop circles from Clif – Clif posted in the topic

Besides this latest information about him posting on GLP….. I had done days and days of research in July, due to wanting to find out if Clif was real or not after his email to me.  I found all kinds of things, many personal, from his having problems with his umiak boat, to looking to buy a boat, which does not apply here. 

But various tidbits of things I do believe apply:


The boat he has pictures up on his website of.

searched: Q'oqi-oqi meaning   

What it says, is basically - "a CONTROL system  that brings about results"



I also found information regarding his Vortex software.  It is suppose to help people read faster. 
Here is where someone has doubted his Vortex software – it makes interesting reading if nothing else, due to the odd accusation against Clif and his Vortex software.
http://www.aliensonearth.com/area51/list/1997/mar/a07-003.shtml

From his Rense Interview in September:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RplZY1IkNDs&feature=channel
 energy of people a little after the 4 min mark

at little after 9 min mark - says suffering from arthritis  - on GLP says his swirlies cure arthritis from a topic he started linked above.  

at little after 13 min mark Rense said, he printed out report #7 - but it was like it was in code - all jibberish and asked Clif if the CIA had put codes in the report!!  Listen to this part, very interesting non reaction from Clif.

around the 9:40min on this one is the discussion of the awake and aware energy and the power we have as being much more than those asleep, directly from Clif.

listen starting at 2 min mark - Nov. tip point - global nuclear war - Israel attacks Iran - says no society anymore around the world, most of our military killed within the four days of Nov.  - what he says is where the people of the world are basically wiped out.  AT 4:22MIN **** Important - he says " HE IS SURE HE IS WRONG BECAUSE ANYTHING HE CAN IMAGINE WILL PROBABLY NOT HAPPEN"  Listen to those Words "Anything he can IMAGINE"!  at the 8:52  min mark - he says "George and him work on the reports together and because THEY CAN THINK OF, it probably will not manifest that way".

says life will be different after Nov. 8th for all - due to tipping point - *** Life is the same for me right now - has it changed for anyone else***?
at 10 min mark - says presented the idea of the webbot technology to CIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACkW-qqZZk&feature=related


here is information from Clif regarding his software.  He does not have the Vortex information page up on his website anymore, nor does George on Urban Survival – but this is from another site about it:


http://www.halfpasthuman.com/
Vortex xStream ™
Machine Assisted Reading has come to a computer near you.
This software allows humans to read from their computer screens at up to 2000 words per minute.
This is accomplished by allowing the separation of the work involved in reading.
You set the legibility factors (Font, Size, Color, and Speed of Delivery), sit back, and then the computer does the display, you do the absorption.
* Word display at up to 2000 words per minute
* Word display in sizes to the limit of the display
* Word display in any color combination available on your display.
* Word display in any typeface font available on your computer.
* Extract words from all your other software for reading in Vortex xStream with 'soft eyes'.
Vortex xStream can be used for:
Reading text from browsers.
Reading text from email programs.
Reading text from word processing programs.
As a form of tele-prompter.
As a form of text interpreter for the hearing/vision impaired.
As a form of teaching aid for either groups or individually.
As a form of reading enhancement tool for those with *some reading impairments.
The Vortex xStream software presents one word at a time in the manner best suited to your reading. Your eyes will do less work, and more words will get to the mind.
Vortex xStream is a version of our patented (US Pat. 5,873,109) Machine Assisted Reading Software technology. This version is entirely focused on delivery of speed.
If you need to read vast quantities of text from computers, this software may be for you.
If you have visual impairments, this software *may be for you. Bear in mind that if you cannot operate software within Windows, you will not be able to operate this software without assistance.
(This product runs on Microsoft Windows XP, 2000, NT, ME and 98)
Vortex xStream has been used in : Government ... Teaching ... Spies (CIA) ... Business ...Schools ... Medicine ... legal reading ... script reading ... debugging computer code
To purchase Vortex xStream via Paypal for $30 US Dollars, go to :
http://payloadz.com/go/sip?id=78724
You will be emailed a secure site for download of the software with an access number which is good for 48 hours.
To purchase Vortex xStream via check or money order,
*with delivery via email attachment*, send check/money order payable to: Tenax SE
in the amount of $30 US Dollars along with the email address where you wish delivery to:
VxStream
4305 Biscay St NW
Olympia WA 98502 USA

 
I checked and found where universities have recommended it on the internet. Besides the Royal Bank of Scotland



Also Clif’s motto with the Vortex Software is on the above link – but here it is:  

Cliff High
Tenax Software Engineering
chigh@halcyon.com

         "To change the world,
          change a mind"

What I could not find is a patent for Clif's Vortex XStream reader.  I found a patent application that referred to the Vortex and Tenax Software Engineering (Clif) but that did not refer to a patent for Clif.

The patent that refers to Clif's Vortex:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6098085.html
I have found where Clif says he did the Cornix Software, but the patent for the Cornix for Microsoft does not have his name on it, as an inventor.

Here Clif is Saying he is working on the Cornix
http://www3.wcl.american.edu/cni/9703/12211.html
 From above link - more at link but this one sentence is important.
"Tenax Software Engineering is working on Cornix,"


Here is the Patent for Cornix for Microsoft
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=aZUVAAAAEBAJ&dq=cornix


Listed there are these names as the "inventors" (Cliff's name is not listed as an inventor) and the relevant information about the patent:

Inventors: Daryl Lawton, Alexandra W. Loeb, Henry W. Burgess, Eric J. Feigin
Assignee: Microsoft Corporation
Primary Examiner: Joseph Feild
Secondary Examiner: Rachna Singh
Attorneys: Leydig, Voit & Mayer, Ltd. 
Patent number: 6920610
Filing date: Mar 2, 1999
Issue date: Jul 19, 2005
Application number: 9/260,837


Here is a reference to Clif and Tenax for the Cornix software in an advertisement type article:
http://www.sportsci.org/news/movetoge/mt13.html

TECHNOLOGY / COMMUNICATION
FROM Edupage: 4 February 1997
THE EYES HAVE HAD IT
Tenax Software Engineering has come up with a new tool for managing
information overload -- its Cornix
Java applet allows you to read Web pages
with "ease and comfort at speeds of up to 1,000 words per minute." The
Cornix applet displays the text of a Web page one word at a time in
100-point type (almost 1-1/2 inches high), eliminating the side-to-side eye
scanning that can cause eye fatigue. Tenax reports that most people double
their reading speed almost as soon as they start using Cornix,
with average
person, reading about 240 words per minute, increasing to nearly 500 wpm.
Tenax claims some enthusiastic readers have even reached "warp" speeds of
8,000 or so wpm.
(Information Week 27 Jan 97)

This is also very interesting to me.  I found a board Clif posted on, saying he was chair of a Y2K board and how various organizations were about to fail, due to the Y2K problem used the type of writing in how he .  What is very interesting is him using the type writing as he does the alta report.  

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002BtI
Here are his messages he posted, at the above link: 
Threshold events reported by C R High of Tenax Software Engineering from the collective conclusions of the TACE working group of the CCS [Center for Co-operative Solutions] as of Jan 2, 2000 

A threshold event is required before spin on y2k changes from 'no problem'. Yes, the press are the lackeys of 'the powers that be' [TPTB] but, like a pack of mistreated dogs, when the discipline breaks, the whole pack will attack. 

Threshold event is likely to fall into one of the following categories: death/serious injury failure at corporate level failure of a commonly experienced norm (loss of telecom satellite, atms) 

Threshold event also masks the '10,000 cuts' that we will all have to live through. During this time, the biggest challenge will be to convince others that the data given to them by the computer is suspect.Currently, people believe computer generated data. It will take either a reported threshold event or the continuous reporting of small errors in such quantity as to depress the collective mood of denial and euphoria. This will require daily reporting of thousands of incidents or the direct experience [by large number of individual members of the public] of previously identified clarion call incidents [e.g. personal banking, credit card, energy purchase (gas, heating oil) or medical device failure]. 

The trend analysis charting from the CCS [Center for Co-operative Solutions] working group on threshold analysis and Y2K predicts that [within the USA] the first of the threshold events will be reported [sic, accurately and with meaning] after the 5th of January and before the 25th of Jan. Noting the resistance of the media, the actual estimates are reported below: Threashold event reporting 99% likely between Jan 2 and Jan 25 60% likely between Jan 3 and Jan 5 80% likely between Jan 5 and Jan 25 

The actual predictions from the working group rank the likeliest threshold incidents to take place in [one of] the following areas ranked in order of probablility; *transportation *financing *energy (production) *energy (consumption) *manufacturing (most likely chemical production) *telecoms (including entertainment) Note that the ratings difference between transportation and finance were negligible. Author chose to list in this order out of personal perferences. 

Note that events from outside of the USA direct reporting sphere are postulated to require that the incident include deaths in order to reach threshold status with US reporting industry. 

Note that threshold events are defined to *not* include internet only reporting of an incident.
FYI: the beginning of a thousand mile journey is not complete with the first step. In spite of what your feet might like you to believe.

-- cliff high (chigh@vallier.com), January 02, 2000 

The other post on the above link - him responding to someone else
Tenax SE does software engineering at several levels. We have patents on software which allows users to read at up to 2000 words per minute from ordinary computer screens. We have several new products in the process of being patented. We do y2k work at the database (client/server) level. We do programming in C, C++, PB, VB, perl, prolog, assembler, verilog, et cetera...we do plc development, as well as other forms of burnable code. We provide counseling on technical issues and social/business impacts to a wide variety of clients. (as an aside, some of our clients are building 'hit' lists of their competitors who are likely to experience enterprise level failurs, we are advising on this effort) 

Currently Tenax chairs the CCS working group on trends analysis and y2k. Like the gartner group, we see the y2k problems developing over the course of the next two years. DB corruption will be the big news. Enterprise level failures (think IRS, Fortune 100s) will begin surfacing next week. These are predicted to come to light over the next 6 to 8 months. Our prediction for the peak of enterprise failures goes from Sept 2000 to Feb 2001. 

Remeber, y2k is NOT a date problem, it is a data problem. Therefore failure(s) will occur when the data falls outside the acceptable range allowed by the exercising program (and the programmers' vision). Thus, failure(s) due to y2k are only partially predictable by date.

-- cliff high (chigh@vallier.com), January 02, 2000. 

Well he was wrong about that prediction, in 2000 and everything did not fall apart after all.

*** Also above he says he has various software patents, I was only able to find a couple of patents with Clif's name on it and none were for software.

 An electronically controlled token engraving apparatus.
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=DncwAAAAEBAJ&dq=cliff+high
A Device for dispensing for portions of chain
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=sM8uAAAAEBAJ&dq=cliff+high

I searched for Tenax Software Engineering patents - I was able to find references to his Vortex, in other people's applications for speed reading software, but I was not able to find an actual patent for the Vortex or anything in Tenax's names, nor do the references give a patent number with the reference.

In all my hours of searching using various ways of his name from Cliff R High, Clifford R High, Cliff High, Clif High, Tenax, Tenax Software engineering, Tenax Software, Vortex, Vortex Xstream, Xstream, ebrain, ebrain speed, vxstream. for patents - I could not find any for the above, except for the 2 listed.  Maybe I somehow missed patents for him, but I tried very hard to find any that I could. 
One last thing about Tenax,. which I found very interesting

Tenax Software Engineering2103 Harrison Ave NW
Suite 2-141
Olympia, WA 98502
Phone: 360-866-1686
Fax: 360-866-1686
Email: vuilbaard@earthlink.net

Record created: Aug 23, 2001 :: Updated: Aug 30, 2001
Tenax Software provides technical repensentation to state and local government agencies within Washington and Oregon. We act as manufacturers reps for software (or specific hardware) to government agencies. We provide technically astute sales and installation/support for software products applicable to government operations. Our work involves 24/7 support for products in use in Washington and Oregon state and local governments. 

We are located in Olympia which allows for short term response to our clients needs.

We are comfortable in representing a diverse software product line. This ranges from handheld computer software to agency wide enterprise imaging systems.
  

I would like to say, in August I confronted Clif in an email with all the information I had dug up at that time.  I included the Kanji symbols and flat out told him, I thought the reports were about the awake and aware focusing their intent and energy into the events he forecasted, so they would occur.  Also he was keeping the awake and aware’s energy in the negative with Fear and Worry, which feeds  the  PTB.  He replied back and (*Updated info*11/25/10)denied my accusations and that was the last time I emailed him, except for a follow up to his denial.  I have never emailed him again.  What is also funny is I was banned off the webbot forum not long after, though I had never posted any of my thoughts about Clif there, but there are a couple of "high profile members/mods there, who did know what I found out".


********(***Updated Info***11/25/10) - I re read Clif's "denial email to me last night.  I had only read it once, after I received it - I realized Clif did not deny the Biggest accusation I made against him!  Clif did not deny the fact he keeps people's Energy in Fear on Purpose!  He denied the messages in the boat pictures, but not the "fear factor".  

  How I missed the biggest fact of his non-denial, I don't know! Except maybe I still wasn't ready to see the "whole truth" to myself yet.


But if I do release that email, then people will see he did not deny - he purposely keeps people in Fear! It would just be another "nail", when there is no need to have one more placed, IMO.



But others, who are saying I am unethical for not releasing it... need to stop, as it does  Clif no good, because it is not a denial, as I fully comprehended last night.******  END OF UPDATE ON 11/25/10.


Clif will mention in interviews how “Enlightened” and how he meditates all the time and has been able to transcend many things of the physical including ego.  But what I have read from his posts on GLP, I don’t personally see how that is possible.  Also, something else that bothered me in the pictures of his boat, was all the trash everywhere.  I mentioned that in my email to him.  He said it was due to various recent circumstances of storms etc and he had not cleaned up yet.  But when you look at the pictures of his boat, you can see trash just thrown on the ground by it and so on.  So I decided to look up the address he has on his website on Google Earth.  What I saw was so Shocking to me, I could not believe it.  The picture I captured from Google Earth was taken in 2006.  I am not meaning to get very personal here, because I do not like to invade anyone’s space.  I would have Never even considered looking up his address before and only did due to my concern of what I saw in his boat pictures.  I am not going to insert the picture, due to my feeling it is such an invasion of privacy, but anyone who wants to can look it up themselves from his address on halfpasthuman.  What I will say regarding it, is I do not believe anyone can be enlightened and at peace with the Earth and Love the Earth as Clif says and live in an absolute garbage dump. **To me, it looks like trash in the picture, others may have a different way of looking at it and not consider it trash*** I have literally never seen property that looked to have trash on it, like it does.   You can also see it on google maps.  Since the address is up on his site, I am not at all revealing anything of a personal nature, except for what to me is shocking and I could never personally be a peace within myself while trashing the Earth around me.  I am putting this in there, due to my feeling it is relevant, due to Clif's statements about himself.


There is much more I have found, including where Clif posts on boating forums, besides all kinds of other information, which I am not going to put here, as again the personal stuff does not apply.  What does apply, in my opinion is Clif not being all he says he is.  Also believing we have been used to try to help manifest through our energies the dire predictions he made in the webbot reports.  What is interesting is the fact he has  “moon” as his email address on his site.  Someone had said in the GLP topic revealing Clif has posted there many times, that the reports were released close to the new moon every month.  So I decided to look up what the meaning of the new moon is, in regards to spirituality and manifestations. This is what I found:

The new moon is the birthing cycle of the moon's various phases. The new moon phase is an optimal time for planning and seeding your intentions. Seedlings need a period of gestation before they break through the soil and reach for the sunlight. This is also true for our ideas and our desires. The dark side of the moon, with its mysterious unseen forces, offers a nurturing environment where our intentions can establish roots before their miraculous manifestations begin to sprout and reach out to the stars.

Setting aside a few minutes each month during the new moon phase to focus on yours wishes and desires will help give you clarity of mind and fill your heart with promise. When it comes to setting goals or planning ahead for your future there is no better time to get started than during the new moon. Any intentions stated or written down carries power, so please take care in considering the things that you really want. The saying "Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it." is fair warning whenever setting your new moon intentions into motion. But, no worries. The moon has its phases and so do our individual wants and needs. This is why it is a good practice to rededicate your list of intentions each month when another new moon visits.

So there it shows it is a “seeding of intentions”.


Reverse speech done – from one of Clif and George Ure’s interview together:



Now my questions are:
Did Clif not realize when he wrote that Yes it was him that actually posted on GLP – that someone would then not look up his ID numbers to his postings to see what he has posted before?

Did Clif do it on purpose, because he is over it all and does not want to do the reports anymore?  In follow up to that….. has he been doing the reports by working for TPTB and this was his way out – by “outting” himself?

Has Clif done these reports due to his own anger and hatred of Israel, The Churches, Banks, etc and wanted them manifested himself?  I ask that due to his violent and hateful postings about those subjects on GLP.

For understanding too and information about those who may try and lead the awake and aware down the wrong path to keep their energy in Fear, Anger and Worry.  I advise looking at this link about those who deceive you, by giving you some hits to get a following, which Clif did get small hits.
 

  • Accurate prophecies are no guarantee of positive intent. Deceptive sources may make successful predictions solely to win blind devotion, induce feelings of doom, or create self-fulfilling prophecies. When positive sources give prophecies, they respect freewill and present probabilities without macabre coloring or undue fatalism.
  • That a body of material contains identifiable truths does not necessarily make it valid. Deceptive sources may pile a heap of lies upon an otherwise factual basis, while the sloppier cases simply slap together fragments of existing material. In contrast, positive material is always more than the sum of its parts and presents extra information that is novel, practical, and verifiable.
  • Preoccupation with lower truths can distract from the pursuit of higher truths. For instance, obsession with exposing political corruption can distract from gaining necessary spiritual empowerment, which is a popular tactic employed by hyperdimensional entities and their human agents. Positive sources prioritize by framing lower truths in their higher context.
  • Just because something contains convoluted trivia, complex jargon, and voluminous pages, it does not necessarily contain profound truths. The illusion of profundity sends people on a wild goose chase for grand truths better found elsewhere. Positive sources are complex only for the sake of accuracy and conciseness.
That is just a very small part of the information available at the above link.

But it also should make people question, what and who they believe in totally.
Which makes me feel there is a program for “predicting things” due to the small hits he has gotten, which then enabled him to get a “cult following”.  Which then makes me feel the reports have been a PTB project, thus is “Igor” the PTB controller of the reports, who Clif mentions often, especially in the GLP posts he has done.

I have a few other comments about this and I surmise it all:

By many of the awake and aware ( I am including myself too) having believed the webbot reports and some really bad event was always going to happen on some date, we “warned others”.  When the event did not happen, the people we warned, felt we were nuts.  Thus those people have never listened again to our “message” in any way.  Including the real messages we have to offer, from knowledge we may glean from what is going on around the world.  Thus the Message and Light of the Messenger has been extinguished for many of us.  I also gather from those who Really warned others about the “tipping point” that was suppose to happen on Nov 14th. Have really had to deal with being made to look silly and their light has been dimmed in a big way.   I can tell you, I did not believe at all there would be a tipping point, I felt it was simply another ploy to take away the message of the awake and aware.

Why are there many people who have told me, due to believing in the webbot predictions their lives have been wrecked.  There are a few whose spouses have left them due to those believing the “big bad event was going to happen” and there is always another date to “watch out for” and some have lost friends over it. 

How could something that was suppose to be and claimed it was for the betterment of mankind, be so destructive in many people’s lives? 

There is much more I could say about this….. but it is always sad, to think….. many of us were actually trying through the webbot reports and following Clif High, to help mankind.  We did it in the best of intentions and due to our belief in a “Guru”.  We were actually sheep, being led into a pen, where I believe our energies were being used to try and help manifest the most dire predictions possible.

**note: I put this information article together 5 days ago and have still doubted whether to release it publicly or not, I take no enjoyment in releasing everything.


 I have spent many hours and days researching Clif to make an absolute determination in my mind of his sincerity of work.   I had always questioned why Clif never gave a positive as a counter balance of the negative information.  When I say Positive - I mean in talking about how WE can Change the outcomes of what his material stated through our own determination and energies.  The future is not set, due to people changing their thoughts and energies, why was it always: "This is what WILL be what happens" from Clif?   

We can get our Light Back and Be Who we are really meant to be – through Positive Vibrations!

I now advise those who have concentrated on the negative to read and look at some of the most positive information of Who We Are – In that we are all one – we CAN Save Each other and our Precious Earth through Love for each other and our Earth!
http://www.bbsradio.com/files_byothers/ELF_Transmissions_061707.pdf

Also see this video of "The Little Grandmother "  She is amazing and she says "Yes, some things are going to happen with the Earth, BUT through Love we can get through it all - NO FEAR"  Work through your Heart in Love and Light not through your mind in Fear and Darkness".

This is all just my opinion, it may not feel right to others and it is subjective in what I feel I have found out or have read from his email.   I have written this in sorrow and I still have moments of doubt, as it really is sad to me.  But, I sincerely do this in Love - I do in in Love due to even if the webbot reports were not intentionally meant to cause the manifestations of such negative predictions they still are not what anyone should focus on.  Again I am still thankful for going through the whole journey I have, due to it making me a stronger person in Knowing LOVE is the Only way forward with Positive Intent in All Things!

Also a note.... I am NOT trying to convince anyone of anything, I am laying out WHY I have come to the conclusions myself of what I feel the webbot predictions are about.  Many have other opinions and that is fine.... it is simply where I am and What I feel myself is Truth to me.  




I FEEL the time has come for us to understand what we focused on and Now what we MUST Focus On!  

FOCUS ON LOVE, LIGHT, HAPPINESS, JOY, CONTENTMENT, LAUGHTER, PROSPERITY FOR ALL, HEALING!  The list goes on and on of Where our Focus Should Be in the Positive! Live in the Positive - Love in the Positive - and Focus on the Positive!  


Edit - This is interesting information:

There is a book from 1971 titled: Half Past Human

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_Past_Human


It is so ironic in so many ways and it can bring up other questions about the whole hoopla happening, but I would think, everyone would have to admit, it really is quite funny in so many ways of the information is right in front of you, if you so desire to look at it. Hidden in plain sight as some may say.


Here's some interesting stuff about the book Half Past Human.

Plot summary

Bass' future Earth is an environment in which the sum of the biota serves as its food chain. Human science has created the four-toed Nebish, a pallid, short-lived and highly programmable humanoid who has had the elements that do not facilitate an underground Hive existence (aggression, curiosity, etc.) bred out of it. The five-toed humans (called buckeyes) wander the biofarms that keep the trillions of Earth's Nebish population fed. All animals other than man are extinct, so meat comes from other humans (and the occasional rat). The conflict between the Hives and the roving bands of five-toed original Humans, who are reduced to savagery and hunted like vermin by Hive Security, forms the backdrop of this novel.

Something strange is happening, as the primitive buckeyes are showing signs of a purpose whose goal is unclear and probably dangerous to the balance of the Hive. There seems to be a third party stirring the pot, campaigning in a relentlessly successful battle with the computer minds that keep this "brave new world" in balance. Agendas beyond the ken of their protagonists begin to come into play, and an epic battle between the Four- and the Five-toed is looming.

another little summary



Members of the Hive are gender-neutral until assigned one by the Earth Society for reasons that serve that Hive; reasons usually centering on population control. Good idea given there are three billion members of the Hive. Tinker, an exemplary model of a Hive citizen, is assigned the status of Male, mates and has an "unauthorized" offspring - a five toed baby who is destined for the recycle bin. Paternal instincts kick in (thanks to his assignment as a male) and he tries to escape the Hive. Eventually he meets up with old-timer Moon and an artificially intelligent staff (as in meter-long stick) named Toothpick, who are organizing the savage five-toes against the Hive.

http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2005/02/review-half-past-human-by-tj-bass/

Here's another one that's also interesting about old-timer Moon
http://mtvenar.deviantart.com/art/Moses-Ependorff-with-Toothpick-166148437?q=sort%3Atime+gallery%3Amtvenar&qo=2

Curious stuff!

I just put the info in for the laughs of it all. Who knew there was a book called Half Past Human and a Hive mentality and an Old Timer Named Moon and a control of the population. All quite funny if you think about it! 

EDIT 2/7/11

The Webbot Forum has designed a very interesting logo for the forum and their youtube channel.  The forum is supposedly owned by Foxx (forum name), but when I had looked up the information, extra money was paid, so an owner would not actually be listed. 

After seeing the information was hidden, I started a topic on the forum, last Oct. (2010) with a very simple question of "Who is the owner of the forum"?  The reaction was mind blowing in how upset Foxx and the moderators were for me asking that.   They shut down the topic in a very fast amount of time. Then the emails I received from Foxx and a few of the moderators were filled with "F***ing" curse words,  I was called every thing in them.   They of course, as any "power structure" does when asked for truth, turn it around and attack the person asking for truth.  They said I was a trouble maker and so on and I was putting them in jeopardy for asking the question.



I have not posted or participated in that forum since.  I wondered why they did not want to reveal the information of who the owner is per se.   Besides, I had only participated in it, in the MERS foreclosure topic and metals topic at that point, as I did not believe in the webbot technology anymore.

  That has since made me wonder many times, who is behind the forum.  Is it a government entity (CIA, etc) behind it, thus is it a PTB forum, to keep those who are very much awake and aware continued to have their energies locked in fear through predictions of the webbot, instead of Love and Light?


What is the reason I am putting in this edit? I was sent the link of their youtube channel yesterday (2/6/11) and the second I saw their logo, I was blown away at the amount of Illuminati symbolism in every respect in it.  They packed their logo with the symbols of the Elite and PTB,  the all seeing eye, dead people, a pyramid, people being beaten down, it is so in your face full of Illuminati symbolism.   There is probably even more going on with it, in the eye lid part of the drawing of symbolism, I have not been able to grasp as of yet.  But the other, totally jumps out and is very obvious.





Click on the picture to make it bigger.  On the right side of the eye (as a clock) you will see people being beaten down.  The clock is the eye, looks like they may have the time right at 9:11, the way I read it.  The pyramid has an eye again, reproduced at the top of it.  Bones of dead people are drawn around the left of the eye.  It looks like the eye is bleeding or something with the drips below it.   The half past human skeleton looks like it is jumping for joy at all that is going on with the logo.   I find it very odd that the webbot forum would use all the in your face Illuminati symbolism.  But I have no doubt they will have the excuse of "putting it all in there, as that is what they discuss".   Forums may discuss things like that, but gosh darn that is the most bizarre logo I have ever seen representing a group of people in a forum.  The logo to me, says they are controlled by the Illuminati.   

We all perceive things differently and I happen to perceive the logo as absolutely bizarre and it telling you what the forum is about.   Which all PTB structures have to do, so no Karma is on them for what happens, as they were out front and told/showed you what they are about.  


I am sure there will continue to be the cult following of Clif and the webbot, as with anything, many don't ever want to see the truth, in something they have invested their time, energy, mental thoughts, and money, etc. in.  Giving up a belief is just not easy for people. 

Of course, the observation and interpretation, is my own feeling and thoughts of the webbot forum logo and others may see it completely different.  I am simply giving my opinion. 

UPDATE 6/11/11 - 


Clif High did an interview last week, it seems he completely admitted making things up in the reports.  He said he put lies in to get back at the PTB, for his on vendettas.  He said he purposely manipulated people's energy and focus on lies!  For those who fully understand why he did this - he had to shed Karma off himself and now put it on the people.  But what is amazing is people that refuse to look at the truth, still believe he did it for the good.  I have something to say to that.... if a person is "enlightened" as Clif High self proclaims he is then he would KNOW you NEVER put people's focus on any negatives as that is using their energies for the negative to happen.  

Here is the part of his last interview saying he wrote lies in the reports to manipulate people.  It starts at the beginning of this video and he talks in circles for about 7 minutes about it.  He said he has no regrets.  Now.... question for everyone - where does he get his correct information?   Also, someone called me and asked me to look at his new pictures up on HPH - he put "Tiki 21" up.  It is very weird in the way it is written, more like a "loge" than a story.  Also in one second I saw something in the pictures.  Take a look and see if you also see what I do - a hint...... VERY VERY CREEPY - in fact a Bizarre Creepy!  







Reverse Speech analysis of sections of the above part of the interview.
Besides outright admitting lies in the report, he confirms it with the reverse speech.

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  1. Thanks. We must see how this develops.

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  2. been keeping an eye on this, never took their word as gospel- but never wrote it off either

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  3. Gotta thank you and congratulate you for doing such extensive research, this is astounding! And to Clif, if he's reading this: Clif, you're such a two-faced bastard!

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  4. I've give you a maybe, but its all a bunch of guesswork and short on real proof. I'll admit that clif has a short temper and often seems less "zen" than he'd like but that doesn't make him a liar.
    If he is working for the TPTB and trying to force bad things to happen, then why is he predicting so much pain for TPTB? Death of dollar, destruction of FED, death of bankers and politicians. They, if involved, would never allow such predictions to be printed.

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  5. I appreciate this expose very much and say it is right on.

    Thanks for including the RS vid which is an accurate tool for revealing hidden agendas.

    Also, the remedy for all of this to for each one of us to stop forestalling our OWN connection and hook-up to Source, where we can access HUGE amounts of information and KNOW the score without having to wade through the volumes of disinfo out there.

    This is the coming shift for the "Awake and Aware" crowd: to move from a reliance upon knowledge (which can be tainted and tampered with) to direct access (KNOWING) based upon a strong connection to one's own inner Mind, or Source energy.

    Blessings to all on this path of truth.

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  6. Thank you thank you thank you! Your research and time you put into this just clarified what I have been thinking all along about Clif High. I gave him the benefit of the doubt because he always sounded like he was trying to help mankind by warning us, but when in fact he was trying to make his own thoughts of destruction come true through others!

    I am glad I never purchased one of his reports, but I did read a couple that were posted on the internet here and there and was always amused at his ramblings and incoherent speech. He is definitely as evil as they come if his intentions were what you think they are.

    He is a lonely, bitter old man who obviously has had problems with the banks and government in the past. After spending the last your reading your findings, I went out and looked up the public court records for him in his county in WA and sure enough he has a history going back to the late 70's early 90's with judgements. Perhaps he has made enough money off his fake reports to retire now for good and keep his negative energies to himself.

    Now, what about George Ure? Is he just as bad as Clif or perhaps another unsuspecting individual that Clif used?

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  7. It is unfortunate when so much energy is put into so little substance. For all Sherries efforts this seems to have began from highly tenuous and abstract suspicions. From there a loosely knit assemblage of "facts" (some valid, some merely giving the illusion of validity) is laid (heaped)onto the original suspicions.

    This entire piece arrives at a time uncertainty and for many as to the overall accuracy of the Web Bots. The Bot project never claimed to be more than fifty percent accurate; its a work in progress. So the effect is to foster and facilitate suspicion and distrust.

    In essence the above webpage is thinly justified 'Ad hominem' and 'poisoning of the well'. Overall the piece has the feel of undue 'tinfoil' style suspicion from the start, and justification of personal disappointment due to an inaccurate and failed understanding of the Tipping Point in the end. A plethora of details cannot justify a faulty beginning point(classical snow job?).

    Sorry Sherrie, but I find the whole "case" you present flawed from nearly every conceivable angle; beginning to end. Yes, our knowledge of Clif is incomplete. Doesn't he deserve a personal life like all the rest of us?

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  8. Clif has always expressed himself very bluntly, and that includes his feeling about the various oppressive power structures running this world. If he was attempting to spread memes of destruction of Israel, the Vatican, etc, I suspect it was done in the hopes of freeing the human race from these parasites. There may not be any untraumatic way of getting rid of them...hence the prophecies of disaster.

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  9. if you read the info, you will see I did not believe in the tipping point. Did not have a thought that something was going to happen. You will see I said, I felt it was just another date, to again take away the message of those awake and aware. Their energies were kept in fear, which totally feeds TPTB. So there was no personal disappointment at all!

    Of course Clif deserves a personal life. But he said things contrary to what he has done, I simply pointed those facts out. You will find, I also said, "This is why I feel the way I do about Clif and the Webbot Reports", and I am not trying to convince anyone. I simply laid out information for everyone to decide for themselves what is truth to themselves.

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  10. Very analytical with in-depth research. One problem; I know clif and he's not like that.

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  11. This is a great piece of work, Sherrie. Thank you so much for having the courage to put it up. Interesting how Clif never wants to talk about 'intent'. I wonder if that's simply projection due to his own intent.

    It appears that Clif has discovered something useful and is allowed to continue using it and 'sharing' as long as he keeps scaring the living shit out of everyone. My theory is, his attempt at controlling the future is coming from a good place.

    I found out a few years ago that fear is one of the most powerful controllers. We need to spend more time with positive thoughts. Let's just all envision the world in which we want to live - then we might have a chance.

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  12. ("I felt it was just another date, to again take away the message of those awake and aware. Their energies were kept in fear, which totally feeds TPTB")

    I agree, Sherry, that the basic premise of your post is quite sound, and that it could lead to some very interesting discussions.

    The case you present, however, is hilarious, and not at all convincing. The issue with the boat pictures and the hidden messages? Deeply paranoid bullshit, IMO! The 2006 mess in his garden? None of your fracking business and, again, so utterly irrelevant! Apart from that, nothing of any substance in your post, really.

    Sorry for expressing such a "harsh" judgement. But I have always considered myself your "virtual" friend, and so I have to be frank with you and speak my mind freely.

    You have fallen victim to some whicked guys and gals (and their TBTB-minions) that run the webbot forums. Clif and George are sound, afaics.

    Give this thing a break, concentrate on Love and Positiveness instead. Keep yourself spiritually prepared and awake!

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  13. There may or may not be hidden messages in the boat, but even if I have looked at them the wrong way, it is still what "woke me up". So, there is something in the pictures, was it mainly the thrash that "woke me up"? I am not sure.

    True, how someone else keeps their property and house is really no one else business. I do not look up other people's addresses, to see where they live, that is an invasion of privacy.

    BUT, as I stated (which I could have easily put the picture in the blog - but chose not to), is it really disturbed me, seeing all the trash in the pictures. Why? Because, how can someone meditate all the time and be at peace and harmony with so much disharmony around them?

    Though it is personal, it is the fact Clif has put himself on a pedestal somewhat, by saying how, he meditates and how enlightened he is.

    Also, the simple facts are - it seems Clif does not walk his talk.

    Do I look at things with a much more critical eye? yes. But I also learn to follow my instincts on things.

    As I also said, I would have NEVER published my thoughts, had not Clif outed himself and had shown, he did not walk the talk.

    I am honest, I am truthful in laying out the reasons Why "I" no longer believed in the Webbot Technology.

    What is also very interesting, is I took the time to read Clif's denial email to me once more.

    Guess what? It is NOT a denial! I can't believe I did not see that before. He denies the messages in the boat and gives reasons for the trash (I was brutally honest with Clif in what bothered me in my email to him). But I realized he did not deny the biggest accusation I made against him - the fact that I believed the webbot reports were to keep people in fear!

    Will I post both my email and his email back? I am not sure yet. Maybe I will just put this behind me and go Forward to being the person I AM trying to Be of Love and Light.

    Do I want to further hurt Clif possibly by releasing the email? NO! It still pains me, as I felt Clif was a "virtual" friend also.

    But this information down was not easy for me, I struggled with it, in that "should I put down what I feel and why"?

    I finally did.

    But I only laid out why I feel the way I do and I have let others make up their own minds on it.

    Clif opened this door himself, no one else did.

    I believe Clif is a brilliant person, BUT if he is all he says he is, in enlightenment, then would such a person, keep people in emotional fear all the time?

    Wouldn't they say "Hard times are coming, but through your own Love and Positive Energy, you can get through them"? Wouldn't an enlightened person give out information but still say "No fear"?

    Oh, one other thing, something in re reading Clif's (what I thought was denial email)- he says in it "Do NOT believe or Support this bot stuff"! hhhmmm......... I am still amazed at myself for not seeing, that he did not deny what he is doing.

    We are all on our own paths - we all choose which way we desire to go. We will all live with what we have done through Grace or Karma.

    There are many angry with me right now and I will have to deal with that, but there are many who have opened their eyes more and are going deeper in where their own energy is at.

    HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

    MAY LOVE AND LIGHT GUIDE US ALL AND PROTECT US ALL AS WE GO FORWARD!

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  14. One other comment about Clif's denial email - it seems many feel I am disingenuous by not releasing that email. But after re reading it last night - though he is sincere it seems in the messages of the boat, he completely ignores my main accusation against him! I had only read the email once - when I received it - How I missed the biggest fact of his non-denial, I don't know! Except maybe I still wasn't ready to see the "whole truth" to myself yet.

    But if I do release that email, then people will see he did NOT deny - he purposely keeps people in FEAR! It would just be another "nail".

    I am not the sort of person, who likes to "nail" someone else. I believe Clif is already down and I do not want to "kick, someone while they are down".

    But others too who are standing by Clif .... need to "walk" away that are criticizing and blasting me for not releasing his denial email.... as it does not do Clif any good, because it is NOT a denial.

    When you put your energy and time into something for a long time, it is hard to "give up" and admit, it was the wrong place to put that energy. But we will all continue on what paths we are led, with eyes opened or closed, it is up to our own free will.

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  15. Sherrie,

    Thank-you for posting your thoughts and presenting a differing opinion. It took courage to put yourself out there. Some will not allow themselves to see the truth as many have a vested interest in your 'truth' being wrong.

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  16. Thank-you Sherrie for all the hard work you put into this article. You have presented many points to ponder. I love how your heart shines throughout the whole piece. Looking forward to your next installment. Many Blessings to you and yours.

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  17. I am just put the info in for the laughs of it all. Who knew there was a book called Half Past Human and a Hive mentality and an Old Timer Named Moon and a control of the population. All quite funny if you think about it!

    There is a book from 1971 titled: Half Past Human

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_Past_Human


    It is so ironic in so many ways and it can bring up other questions about the whole hoopla happening, but I would think, everyone would have to admit, it really is quite funny in so many ways of the information is right in front of you, if you so desire to look at it. Hidden in plain sight as some may say.


    Here's some interesting stuff about the book Half Past Human.

    Plot summary

    Bass' future Earth is an environment in which the sum of the biota serves as its food chain. Human science has created the four-toed Nebish, a pallid, short-lived and highly programmable humanoid who has had the elements that do not facilitate an underground Hive existence (aggression, curiosity, etc.) bred out of it. The five-toed humans (called buckeyes) wander the biofarms that keep the trillions of Earth's Nebish population fed. All animals other than man are extinct, so meat comes from other humans (and the occasional rat). The conflict between the Hives and the roving bands of five-toed original Humans, who are reduced to savagery and hunted like vermin by Hive Security, forms the backdrop of this novel.

    Something strange is happening, as the primitive buckeyes are showing signs of a purpose whose goal is unclear and probably dangerous to the balance of the Hive. There seems to be a third party stirring the pot, campaigning in a relentlessly successful battle with the computer minds that keep this "brave new world" in balance. Agendas beyond the ken of their protagonists begin to come into play, and an epic battle between the Four- and the Five-toed is looming.

    another little summary


    Members of the Hive are gender-neutral until assigned one by the Earth Society for reasons that serve that Hive; reasons usually centering on population control. Good idea given there are three billion members of the Hive. Tinker, an exemplary model of a Hive citizen, is assigned the status of Male, mates and has an "unauthorized" offspring - a five toed baby who is destined for the recycle bin. Paternal instincts kick in (thanks to his assignment as a male) and he tries to escape the Hive. Eventually he meets up with old-timer Moon and an artificially intelligent staff (as in meter-long stick) named Toothpick, who are organizing the savage five-toes against the Hive.

    http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2005/02/review-half-past-human-by-tj-bass/

    Here's another one that's also interesting about old-timer Moon
    http://mtvenar.deviantart.com/art/Moses-Ependorff-with-Toothpick-166148437?q=sort%3Atime+gallery%3Amtvenar&qo=2

    Curious stuff!

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  18. WOW...now yes we're getting serious. I might have to reconsider my assessment of Clif and George made above.

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  19. Wow. This article really HELPS TPTB.

    pedophilia and reptilians ARE mentioned in the reports WAY too often for this stuff to be generated by TPTB.



    The bald fellow is an aikidoist - one uses an opponent's weight against them. He is a sailor... and what kind of mouth do sailor's have? He IS NOT, nor has he ever claimed to be all "LOVE AND LIGHT."

    It is INcorreCt to state that his place was full of trash because I too Googled his place and IT WAS NOT TRASHY.

    The Umiak photos WERE different AFTER the site went down. THERE ARE MASONIC statues in WAshington, D.C. WHICH HAVE NOT been taking down.

    PERSONAL ATTACKS are the hallmark of and INFORMATION - knowingly, or not. THE WORK continues with ACcURACY when one understands the WORK.

    "Sherrie" is uninformed because the "Tipping PoinT" is NOT one single event. Do more research.

    You are HELPING TPTB focus on CHARACter ASSINATION rather than ther accumulating evidence in the work.

    very simple.

    CC: FILES

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    1. I agree with this. I have seen the temporal markers falling and, though they don't always look like they are imagined, they appear with uncanny accuracy for those that wish to see them. I have been able to get myself moving and prepared as a direct result of Clif's work. I am active and involved in the world in a way that was not previously known to me. His work helped remove the scales from my eyes and has allowed me to view the unfolding events with different focus-ability. His work holds clarity.

      I have been involved in the intuitive, divinatory processes for a couple of decades now and have noticed some very striking similarities between the divinatory processs and the web bot reports…

      BOTH are delivered in a very similar fashion using atypical language and “misapplied” descriptors. The meter of the reports mirrors the meter of trance readings or tarot readings and is highly visual, archetype based. It rings true to me.

      Fear? What if he is describing something fearful and terrible, is fear based language to be avoided at all cost? I feel that the New Age Movement has taken “warm fuzzy” to a whole new level bordering on absolute denial of reality.

      Sometimes someone has to face personal karma and tell the whole, terrible, naked truth in order to affect change, rather than look to an external locus of control and hope that some kind of savior, etc will come and miraculously fix everything by allowing inaction through the absolute, irresponsible perpetuation of the “positive thought” mythos. In my opinion, that external locus of control represents another layer of intrinsic control. It represents a type of mind numbing, disempowering mythology so often used to dissuade us from taking any kind of personal responsibility or investing any degree of personal effort and work toward our collective destiny.

      Clif scares the hell out of us because we are jolted awake and made aware of our terrible situation…just in time I believe…he doesn’t pretend to hope or believe, just interprets data. Sometimes the data is incongruent or exaggerated, as happens in the psychic process, or manifests archetypally…sometimes “something dark is brewing” turns out to be coffee. This does not, in any way, invalidate the data. Sometimes the universe has a sense of autistic, slap stick humor that befuddles the observer, until Ganesh laughs…

      I read this article and I feel, intuitively, that she is scattered and angry rather than actually attempting to reach for any kind of answer…just my input.

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    2. you both may feel as you do and that is fine. But you are also wrong "intuitively". There was no scattered and angry, in fact I wrote this with a heavy heart, because I had believed in it so much. People living in fear of a new date all the time, putting their energy into that works for those who try and control. Once you really study the spiritual aspects of our lives, then you know our energy should stay in LOVE AND LIGHT! That is what helps the world and the people, not fear and hate.

      We all see things differently, but I will say what I try to do constantly is stay within the LOVE AND LIGHT of the World and send constant LOVE AND LIGHT to ALL of Humanity and the Earth. I work on not putting fear into things. Especially on the New Moon influence days which is when we put out our intentions for the next month and so on.

      You have a right to your opinion, but don't try and even assume or put a label on this article and why I did it and what my own influence was or mental aspects of it. I in fact had absolute clarity with this and did it with LOVE AND LIGHT surrounding me and only LOVE AND LIGHT for Humanity.

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    3. I have yet to meet a LOVE and LIGHT activist without a warmth-biased, externalized locus view, of sorts. It is an imbalanced path. Light only exists in relation to darkness, love in relation to apathy. Clif represents a specific frequency that must be manifest, a yin to your yang perhaps. It may not resonate with you, but it is not intended to resonate at any level other than at the one assigned to Clif. It cannot be any other way. Enlightenment entails awareness of one's frequency, karma and life path. It does not entail a strict exclusive adherence to light and love. On the contrary, some of us are here to do the shamanic work, the dark, nasty, deep, terrifying work...I believe Clif is one of those folks.

      I have no doubt that your intentions are as you say, but you must also concede to Clif's intention toward the same. Knowledge is part of the enlightenment process. Knowledge is neither good nor evil. It is simple a measure of perceived reality.

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  20. 'Yes, masons, i do know of what i speak and the mental image in your mind now is quite deliberate.' This is a statement from HPH's latest communication yesterday. This simple statement goes straight to one of the reasons that the tipping point and subsequent defensive posturing when it did not happen AS DESCRIBED was confusing.

    When one thinks of 9/11 it conjures up deep seated feelings and images for almost every human on the planet that are old enough to remember or otherwise not living in a jungle or cave. Clif is a genius with words and chooses them very carefully. Why the 9/11 reference? What type of image/feeling/response did he expect one would have regarding his choice of 9/11 as a descriptor? Very few would think of 9/11 and have a nuetral reaction or response. Was 9/11 a deliberate attempt in our collective minds designed to do...? Did he perhaps stop a 9/11 event through our collective focus and intentions? Are we being mind ****ed courtesy of the bots?

    Was his reference to the TP with a magnitude of or greater than 9/11 quite deliberate as well?
    And to what end?

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  21. Clif refers to the 'Universe' persuading him. I would argue this is mislabelling. What seems to be persuading him is probably what Islam refers to as 'The Jinn' ... likely "acquired" through his martial arts training.

    Refer to: http://www.thejinn.net/chi_jinn_my_story.htm

    Also refer to:
    http://wisdomoftheworld.wordpress.com/2010/11/03/webbot-project-and-timewave-zero-converge-november-2010-my-working-theory/

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  22. Hi Sherrie

    Thank you for bringing these other points to the attention of your readers!

    As you know I was a private subscriber to the HPH reports from some years back when hardly anyone heard of them. Occasionally would have phone visits with Cliff. Yes, I too was banned early on from the first forum. This confirmed my suspicions. Cliff’s blanket dismissals of spiritual solutions, ascension, etc. were further confirmation that in some ways he “was under the influence”.

    The most recent article by HPH on the Korea situation further confirms that Cliff has very little grasp of the geopolitical situation.

    His bizarre blanket endorsements of dark agendas of David Icke and Patrick Geryl also told me something was seriously amiss with him. If nay doubt, there was his concluding online interview saying that his highest fondest wish would be to reincarnate to lead a military assault upon the dark aliens lunar presence. These are not the words of an enlightened or awakened human. Not in the least.

    His pretending at "universe"=god deliberately masks the different between a zone of control of the dark control matrix and the vastness of creation that does not operate in conflicting polarities and that does not parasitize the divine spark.

    As you probably know, I have made it a point to explain the dynamics of the dark side through postings at NewEarthSummit.org and various lengthy articles at www.pfcn.net - plus my background in human affairs is rather extensive.

    -Alex

    PS: here is link to some public postings I have made concerning the problems of HPH.

    Geryl and HPH
    http://newearthsummit.org/forum/index.php?topic=1169.msg4913#msg4913

    HPH Critique
    http://newearthsummit.org/forum/index.php?topic=73.msg4895#msg4895
    http://newearthsummit.org/forum/index.php?topic=73.msg4967#msg4967

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  23. Sherrie,

    Come on and get a grip of yourself. You sound like a childish jilted "lover" who just discovered that the relationship wasn't what you had hoped it had been! The reality is that you may hurt and feel deceived..... but the truth is Clif hasn't altered his life one bit or practiced any deception over the period you've known him. You simply became infatuated with a person that did not live up to your projections of perfection and enlightenment.

    Clif High is who he is. From all the major investigative work and time spent on "outing" him, you have simply provided a better understanding of what an "enlightened warrior" can and should be.

    Life is NOT all love, acceptness, and sweetness. There is duality that must be recognized in this world. I have higher regard for Clif now after reading your material because I can now verify that he is an extremely blunt and truthful man. Such people should be respected and trusted because they don't sugarcoat their opinions to please others. My gosh, your disappointment in Clif sounds like you would rather have him silky smooth and sweet talking like the deceiving bankers, politicians, and other greedy PTB.

    The martial arts training has apparently made Clif stand as an honest and humble man who fears nothing. Remember that enlightened means seeing a new reality and he simply speaks from his own personal experience which is obviously different that you've either been taught or learned from others in a "new age" community. Go research what it means to be humble. It does not mean meek, weak, and forgiving. A humble man simply knows who he is and what his full character is like....... and accepts himself AS HE IS. Thus he doesn't have to pretend and wear a false persona which is the source of evil in this material world.

    Bullpasture

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  24. I don't think you read the article to the full extent, it seems.

    When someone has said in every interview that violence should never be taken in any situation, including what was suppose to be coming down the road.... then it is found they have said and posted things opposite of that.

    Also, people had changed their lives in a dramatic fashion due to the predictions.

    I put the information out so people can make up their own minds on what the truth is for themselves. I gave my opinions and I gave why they are my opinions.

    I know many of his followers very much dislike me now, but I knew that would happen before I released what info I found.

    Read the information or article and twist it how you want - we all have that right to comprehend things differently. So the simple fact is you have comprehended it totally different from me...

    I am glad you have more respect for him now, through my information. The point with any research is to let everyone decide, what the research means to themselves, so I am happy my research helped you in some form.

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    1. I sure that people have changed their lives...but no more than those that "find Jesus" or have a spiritual awakening, or have kundalini rise... awareness is part of enlightenment, for better or worse. Awakening to find that you are in a prison does not nullify the new awareness. Not all enlightenment leads to positive outcome or a complete, light-filled path. Most of the time the enlightenment process leaves the newly enlightened with MORE questions and LESS answers than before...

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  25. http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=2871.0

    For those that want a different perspective on 'Little Grandmother' that is making the rounds on the internet. I do not dare post this on the Bot forum as a different perspective is not welcome when so many have a vested interest in their truth being sound.

    Is Keisha Crowther a fraud? Looks as though some serious questions are being raised. Is her msg of light and love wrong? No, but that's not the point.

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  26. Thank you for inserting that info about Keisha Crowther. Very interesting, I have been reading it. Guess I might have found something else to research now. I do like her message, but if it is all based on falsehoods, then that is wrong.

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  27. It sounds to me that Clif and his accomplices used the bot reports to deceive people either for entertainment purposes; Or because he is into the supernatural or occult or new age, or whatever term you want to call it.
    According to the Bible we are to stay away from all this sort of thing. Revelation tells of the end times and what is to occur.

    I never personally heard of the bot reports until now. My friend sent me a link to this web site because I was interested in knowing about the gulf oil spill. I clicked on this link by accident and didn't know what it was so I read it.
    I feel sorry for the lot of you who fell this crap.
    My focus is on living life, working, and doing for my family. If you have so much time to invest in this activity, I suggest you put your time to better use. And go to church to find out what the truth is and invest in a worth while hobby.

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  28. Sherrie,
    I just today learned about this post of your research, and am writing to applaud you for the effort. I am not taking a position pro or con.
    I have followed the ALTA reports since early 2007, but more as a bystandarder to an experiment in linguistics. The dates have at times exerted a pressure on me, but that was my choice. I probably did lose friends during that period, and I may lose more in the future if any are left to lose, but I can't put the blame on the Web Bots. I listen closely to a number of alternative radio interviewees who are experts or insiders representing various fields (such as Gerald Celente and Lindsay Williams, to mention two well-known names), and I weigh them all out and compare their messages.
    I do know people who feel their lives have been messed up specifically by the ALTA reports, but that was their choice.
    I been a member of the Web Bots forum for more than a year and a half, and migrated over to the newly opened forum a few months ago at the behest of others, without knowing what had happened on the original forum to alienate people. When you were banned, I had wondered why. My guess is that you have more friends than you may realize among the remaining old-timer members.
    As to the speech reversals, to be honest (and speaking as someone who spend a year in direct study with Reverse Speech pioneer David Oates, culminating in a formal certificate in Reverse Speech Analysis), I can comfortably say that almost all of the reversals you present would make David cringe. He sets forth a series of Validity Factors and some other measures against which reversals should be vetted. The ones you present would not make the cut. Not that there isn't a loose audible similarity, but for the most part the analysis isn't precise enough, and also, you have edited the forward speech too tightly. Analysis is where the art and science of Reverse Speech interpretation comes in. My main concern when this sort of inaccurate analysis is presented is that many people who hear such vague reversals will brush the example off and, knowing nothing more of RS, decide that RS is a flight of fancy. But then, perhaps it was not you who did the actual analysis, perhaps it was someone helping you out. You have enough to do. In either case, please understand, these comments are not a criticism. An analysis of more of Clif's forward speech is perhaps a very worthy project, one I wish I had more time to pursue. I did do some reversals on Clif at one point, and was vaguely uncomfortable with what I found, for reasons I will not go into here. In fact, I can't entirely articulate the reasons. I guess I have certain criteria which I apply to the people I take seriously.
    As an aside and mentioned in part because of your mention of George Ure, I have always questioned George's motives in teaming with Clif, and I can't bring myself to do reversals on George. Something about his voice.
    I think you will know who I am from what I have said, as will others on the forum who may read this, so I will not sign my name. But know that you are welcome to contact me by email or phone to discuss any part of this. My contact information is available through our mutual acquaintance. I love the work you are doing on all fronts, and the passion and energy you bring to this. And I am following your Dave Hodges' interviews with great approval and interest. Please let me know if I can be of any help to you.

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  29. Hi my friend, YKN - I did not do the speech reversal, I found that on the internet. I would have no clue how to do speech reversal. Thank you!

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  30. Hi Sherrie I stumbled over your blog whilst catching up with the precious metals guys, Morgan, Maloney, Keiser et al and this particular posting caught my eye. I've never seen anyone else proffer a caveat on this matter. A long, long time ago in a galaxy far,far away I worked on advanced computational techniques that had, at that time, unrealised stochastic potential. A certain outfit from the pacific NW heaved into view and queered the pitch. I was unimpressed then and have remained so to this day.

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  31. Sherrie - this is so timely. After the “Webbot Clif High on TIME MONK RADIO 6/4/2011” interview, I started having lots of doubts about him and his agenda.

    For me the red flags are numerous.

    At the time, I wrote this:
    "Clif mentioned some 3-body stellar objects approaching earth, varying speed, thus seeming under control. Researching this, it seems to be a hoax, yet he mentioned it like it’s happening and real. He’s either human (makes mistakes too), and hasn’t looked very deep, or maybe he’s a disinfo agent.

    I do wonder about the whole thing – since he seems too good to be true. Knows something about *everything* you ask him, yet never reveals his data publicly for validation, even after the fact. He claims it's just too big, and gets deleted. Yet somehow is magically able to detect 'changes' in the data.

    Not sure if he’s just making this stuff up and having a lot of fun while he does it, or if he’s got something. Kind of hard to verify without the data, isn’t it? I’d like to make my own interpretations of the data.

    Also, his current approach is sort of ‘cultish’ – focus is on him, lots of interviews by groupies, no way to verify or even contend with his info, since it’s his ‘interpretation’ of the data, and no way to see it to form your own interpretation.

    Plus he makes money on the data, selling his reports, he stands to keep it this way.
    I’m cautious, and just taking it as very entertaining filler."

    I'm glad you're questioning him, and his motives, because you're not alone. Something about his story doesn't sit right with me either.

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  32. Clif High is a liar.
    Keisha Grandmother is a liar.
    I tend to think Blossom Goodchild is gullible rather than a liar & probably the subject of CIA synthetic telepathy, but anyone that continues talking to any consciousness that speaks of love & tells lies is stupid.
    Mike Quinsey, CIA synthetic telepathy in my opinion after multiple pro Obama posts from Sal-USA (clue is in the name people)

    New Age is not just heavily infiltrated, but largely the creation of the UN/NWO Luciferian agenda (Madame Blatvasky, Annie Bessant) & a form of mind control which makes people talk like Stepford Wives.

    Love

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  33. Hi Sherrie,

    I had a minor epiphany reading the first few paragraphs of this piece. Right out of left field.

    I saw that the word "belief" has been sadly misunderstood. An awakened mind is one with an indomitable self-trust, do you agree?

    Specifically, it has no fear of any movement within itself. ANY movement. (beyond good and evil!)

    It's just data and its coming in non-stop.


    The self-trust part is relevant now because the deeper self will sort it out.

    Wow! Talk about empowerment!

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  34. http://thegreatpurification.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/clif-high-goes-the-extra-mile-to-prove-he-is-a-fraud/

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  35. Sherrie, you make a great point about trying to warn others and then winding up losing your credibility. Quite a trap for the well meaning.
    This whole thing keeps reminding me of a Star Trek episode, Shore Leave.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shore_Leave_%28Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series%29

    http://youtu.be/xlE2VlE3WkU

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  36. Hi Sherrie. I know this is an old post, but I found this very interesting since I personally knew Cliff in the mid 1980's. He worked under me as a software developer in Tacoma, WA, for about a year. I am not surprised at your analysis, although I think you may have read too much into the pictures. I found Cliff to be very strange - he seemed to be afflicted with ADD and PTSS (he claimed to be delta-force in Vietnam). He was obviously very bright but drew conclusions that were way out of left field given the facts. I remember that even back then he espoused various wacky conspiracy theories. He quit suddenly one day in the middle of a big project, saying the drive from Olympia was getting to be too much.

    Anyway, I just thought it was interesting. I hadn't thought about him in all these years until I came across him while searching for information about Project Pegasus. A very strange dude...

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  37. Sherrie,

    Thanks for your courage and honesty. I have vacillated about Clif for 5 years. I even got hostile with him in emails because I was getting feelings of betrayal and insincerity. I must say that I am not easily impressed by individual people, however, in his case there was something about the intonation of his voice and his linguistic abilities that had me captive, which is extremely unusually for me.

    Just this week I again started to feel strange about him. I sometimes email him asking him questions that he will either ignore or barely answer. So I went searching to see if I could find something like you have written about him as you are someone who knows him well and appeared to be enamored with him.

    I have spent 4 years listening to his every word not simply because I thought he was extremely intelligent but in a lot of ways I agree with him about the earth changes, our government, corruption within the church's, etc.(however, not to the degree that he does).

    Well, after digesting all this stuff and finding that my intuition that I had been duped is true. I guess i should feel really, really angry. However, as strange as it may seem I am feeling very FREE at the present moment.

    Thank you so much for courageously discussing this subject. As for Clif it is very possible that he is working for the other side. After all he does come from a military background a long with mental illness in his family of origin. Perhaps he is a remnant or a left over from MK Ultra. We will have to follow this sorted tale to find out where it leads. But as for me tonight I'm free, I'm free, OH Thank God I am free at last.

    Barbara Delaney

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  38. Clif, the webbot forum and everything connected to them is a machine to manipulate consciousness by making people afraid. Their record of fulfilment of predictions is very low. They are also deeply connected with secret services. They are not into helping us but the system. Clif is a very intelligent man but he is also a very manipulative man and an excellent actor that lies like the psychopaths. After all, the little money he receives from his reports is not enough for him to keep going and doing what he does. I think he is receiving help from an alphabet agency. Beware and do not buy into the hype it will only make you afraid, stressed, to sell your property and end up in the gutter like many members of the forum have ended up. The opposite of what it is supposed to be. As for the forum the moderators are shills that are only interested in sheeple and care nothing about discerning people which they harass with their multiple fantasy members.

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  39. Thank You!
    Sherrie for all your work on the Clif High subject. I didn't know where to comment exactly. Great insight.
    We don't need any more fear mongering - Sneaky bugger
    May we all find the Light and love in the coming years.

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  40. At last I found a page spreading truth of Clif High. I now know that his site is not for predictions but to aid certain dark events to happen. Remember the coastal event that never happened. I feel lucky that I never bough one of his reports. I don't trust his friend George Ure. As for David Icke he has connections to the planet Saturn and hence the Galactic Federation of Light. The GFOL is the spiritual arm of the Illuminati. The web bot does not work and only collects words which Clif arranges into dark events he and his cohorts likes to occur. He claims to be a spiritual person, so why is he so angry? He claims his higher self looks like him, this I agree with but it actually looks more ugly. I saw an elf like creature with a big oval face, green skin and ears that stick out. He does not work for Earth but his own self. As for his claim channeling makes one skito. I dispute this and recommend everyone to channel Cosmic Angels. Don't channel Ass ended Masters but go straight to the top. Angels, Our Eternal Mother,Divine Mother/Father. And the ONE.
    All the Best.
    Alan

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